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Jesus II

 

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Jesus II

By

Gary DeVaney

 

The myth of Jesus Christ sacrificing Himself for the sins of mankind - dying and then coming back to life - is supernatural nonsense. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Faith is not evidence. What can be asserted without proof can logically be dismissed without proof. 

 

Matthew 10:5-6 Jesus commanded His 12 disciples: Go not into the way of the Gentiles, but go rather to the lost sheep of the House Of Israel.

Jesus did not want the Gentiles saved? Jesus, by His command, was only for the salvation of the Jews?

Matthew 15:24 Jesus said: I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the House Of Israel.

After Jesus' death, Christianity would have the world believe that Jesus put Paul to the task of saving the Gentiles.

God / Jesus does not change? God / Jesus remains the same from Alpha to Omega?

Luke 20:46-47 Jesus said: Be on guard against the scribes (clergy) in long robes who love greetings and seats of honor at banquets. They devour the houses of widows and as a pretext, prayers recite lengthy . They will receive a very severe condemnation.

Do you think that any faith-peddling TV evangelists ever did anything like that?

Often, when people proclaim something to be the truth, they are stating only what they are committed to. Sometimes, their committed truth is frustrating as it has nothing to do with any facts concerning the topic. Their truth amounts to their competing for an agenda more to their liking. Facts, they don't like, seem unimportant and are easily dismissed or outright lied about.

Do you know any believers who do not want to learn about God and the Bible - but who are blind-faith, zealous cheer-leaders?

 

Blind Faith?

 

Luke 21:33 Jesus said: Heaven and Earth shall pass away. KJV

II Peter 3:10 &12 The Heaven shall pass away and dissolve in flames.

Believers always express their fear of the end of the world. Did you ever consider the end of Heaven, too? What invention can one come up with to explain this? Could it be that The Biblical Heaven is a myth that is simply hoped for? Heaven’s own source states it exists, but will pass away. Some pretend that Heaven exists within numerous dimensions outside of science, time and reason. Can we prove it with evidence? Could eternity simply be the absence of conscious time, for without time how can there be a sense of conscience, or vice versa? Most Human egos can not handle the reality of expiration.

Revelation 12:7 There was war in Heaven.

What? Oh my Gawd! There's war in Heaven? What other horrors are there in Heaven? Pain? Suffering? Why would any sane, knowledgeable Human Being want to go to Heaven?

Luke 22:31-33 Jesus told Peter that He (Jesus) prayed for (Peter’s) faith not to fail…

Luke 22:57-62 But, after Jesus’ trial, Peter did deny knowing Jesus three (3) times.

Let me get this straight. Jesus prayed for Peter's faith not to fail. Later, Peter denied knowing Jesus three (3) times. Let me think this over - it's slowly sinking in - it's coming together...

Whoa! What does this say about the power of Jesus Christ's prayers?

 

Peter Denied Jesus Three Times

 

Luke 17:34 Jesus said: I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken and the other shall be left. KJV

 

 

 

Luke 17:35 Two women shall be grinding together; one shall be taken, the other left.

 

Mieke Aarsen  - vrouw

 

G: Does the Biblical God condemn all homosexuals? In God's sense of justice, what is "just and fair" for one homosexual man and for one homosexual woman to be "taken" while another homosexual man and woman are left behind? By this example, how do God's consequences prove to be just and fair?

Matthew 15:24 Jesus said: I was not sent except for the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 

Would or could that be something a bias racist would say?

Matthew 15:26 Jesus said: It is not good to take the children’s bread and throw it to the dogs.

Did Jesus, by referring to taking from Jewish children and giving to Gentiles (non-Jews), make a racist remark? Could any practicing Christians fail a racism test?

Some tend to ignore selective context and to believe with no justification, which is faith. Again, nonsense can never be explained. If we are going to often use faith to replace the factual meanings of the Bible, why use a Bible at all?

Matthew 17:17 Jesus said: Oh faithless and perverse generation, how long will I be with you? How long will I endure you?

Does Jesus prove to be impatient? Did Jesus resent enduring some human beings?

Do some believers claim that I am nuts to take issue with their Biblical God and His savior, Jesus Christ? Yes - often believers do that with an angry vengeance! I simply did an accurate chapter and verse book report on the Bible. God and Jesus Christ are in it. Verify - in your own Bible - the selected controversial chapters and verses. If I am in error as to what the Bible says in plain English, I will correct it. What is written in these English words will not go away. Why dislike or condemn any messenger who honestly and accurately exposes verifiable facts? Or, is it my opinions of these selected, controversial C&Vs that believers object to?

Matthew 18:3 Jesus said: Unless you become like children, you will not enter Heaven.

How did Jesus inspire maturity and responsible Human behavior in Matthew 18:3?

Matthew 18:8-9 Jesus said: If your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. If your eye causes you sin, tear it out and throw it away.

 

Did Jesus command:

   Cut It Off?                            Tear It Out?                                  Cut It Off?

 

Please, do not obey Jesus' destructive instructions.

Note: Diagnosing mental illness sometimes is easy.

Among mere Humans; sin is often subjective. Did you ever wonder why children, who turn into adults, do violent things or try to escape reality by drinking booze or taking drugs? Most people, who actually do things heinous and harmful to themselves or others, are often considered insane. Could Jesus' "sacred" advice make some people act insane?

Matthew 18:17 Jesus said: If he refuses to listen to the Church, then, treat him as you would a Gentile or a tax collector.

Isn't a Gentile a race of Human Beings who are not Jews? Again, was Jesus a racist?

Could Jesus advice have given rise to "The Inquisition" or " The Crusades"?

Matthew 5:32 & 19:9 Jesus said: Who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery.

But, the Biblical God became a divorcee in Jeremiah 3:8. Aren't we all to strive to be god-like?

John 21:20-22 Peter saw the disciple following whom Jesus loved, who had reclined on His chest during the supper. Peter asked Jesus: Lord, what about him? Jesus said: What if I want him to remain until I come? What concern is it of yours? You follow Me. Catholic

There are a few places in the book of John that mentions the disciple whom Jesus loved. Many scholars won't go in depth on Jesus’ relationship with this affectionate, sensitive, male disciple.

Matthew 19:12 Jesus said: Some are incapable of marriage because they are born so.

Homosexuality comes to mind. If He were alive today, what do you think Jesus Christ would say or do about homosexuality and gay marriage.

 

   

        100% Human Myth?                   10-20% Human reality?

 

 

When most think of the Commandments, they think of The 10 Commandments. Agreed?

However, any Jewish Rabbi will tell you that there are 613 commandments in what Christians refer to as the Old Testament.

Matthew 19:17-19 Jesus alluded to keep the Commandments. One asked: Which ones? Jesus included: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. (Again in Matthew 22:39 & Mark 12:31)

The commandment that Jesus spoke of is not one of God's, most important, finger-written, 10 commandments. Nor is this new commandment one of the 613 O. T. Commandments. Jesus seems to accept one's loving himself - which the Biblical God often condemned a prideful. If Jesus is God, doesn't God prove to change? 

 

     

Prideful

 

Matthew 21:1-7 Jesus sent 2 disciples to get an ass and a colt. They did and Jesus sat upon them. Jesus told them: If anyone should say anything to you, reply: The Master has need of them.

First, how could just one Jesus Christ sit on two animals, an ass and a colt? My Gawd, that would be a miracle! Was this procurement of these two (2) animals outright theft? Don’t all the egos of thieves feel that they have needs and assume that they are somehow entitled to the property of others? Did Jesus Christ teach, for many who worshipped Him, a theft-model that could and did generate prison-time for them?

Matthew 21:22 Jesus said: Whatever you ask for in prayer with faith, you will receive.

I Samuel 2:2 God judges deeds. (Works?)

What? Who? God doesn’t judge faith? And God obviously did not give Jesus the judgment?

Matthew 21:31 Jesus said: Tax collectors and prostitutes are entering Heaven before you.

Jesus states that prostitutes (women who sell sex) do get to Heaven. If prostitutes do get into Heaven, is it no wonder that the wise young State of Nevada has legalized prostitution? That state loves the tax revenues that many husbands and fathers and a few fun-loving ladies provide it. Are prostitution and gambling against federal laws? Yes? No? How does that work?

 

Nevada's "The Chicken Ranch"!

 

Looking ahead - Mark 14:66-72 contradicted John 13:38.

Mark 14:66-72 A maid of The High Priest saw Peter and said: You were with Jesus... Peter denied it. And the cock crowed. She saw Peter again and said he was "one of them" twice more. Peter denied it again twice more for a total of three times. Peter recalled that Jesus said to Peter: Before the cock crows 2 times (twice), you will deny Me 3 (three) times.

John 13:38 Jesus said to Peter: The cock will not crow before you deny Me three (3) times. (Contradiction) Because the cock did crow after the 1st denial in Mark 14:68, these 2 C&V details cannot be both correct - which means they do contradict each other. Here is solid evidence that the Bible misquoted Jesus either in Mark 14:68 or in John 13:38. Ergo, the Holy Bible contradicts itself, is fallible, faulty, contains errors and cannot be strictly dependent upon.

 

 

 

Believer: It's a minor and an insignificant contradiction and error. It doesn't matter.

GWD: It does matter - if the Bible's integrity matters. Minor and insignificant or not, the Bible, after all these years and editing, still contains many contradictions and errors.

The book "The Encyclopedia of Biblical Errancy" by my old friend and colleague, the late C. Dennis McKinsey, best exposes Biblical errors. It is a very thick book.

If God were Jesus, and Jesus were God, why would God need to pray? Here is evidence that even Jesus’ prayers were not fulfilled. Are you more special to God than Jesus? Based on this example, what chance do you have with prayer?

Faith: To act upon hope as if it were an assumed success, already accomplished, a done deal. Faith is the source of “positive thinking” and often the birth of frustration and disappointment.

To have faith: To assume that you have been chosen, favored, entitled and accomplished.

To have "blind faith" is to lie to yourself.

Belief: Assumed, pretended knowledge.

"I Believe" always means "I don't know". Why would you promote your "I don't knows"? Why would another buy in to your "I don't knows"?

Truth: A point of view, based mostly on feelings, that presumes to be factual.

Matthew 10:15 Luke & 10:12 Jesus said: It will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom on the day of judgment than for that town.

Does that mean although Sodom was judged and destroyed by God, your town can be in greater peril? Did the Sodomites have salvation, according to this verse?

Matthew 24:34 Jesus said: This generation won't pass away until all these things take place.

Do any believers have any provable evidence that any of that generation are alive today?

Matthew 25:41 Jesus said: Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the Devil and his Angels.

Did Jesus tell these people that they were cursed and to go to Hell?

A depressed teenage boy was talking to Jesus. He complained to Jesus: Nobody accepts me! Jesus said: I know the feeling. The boy asked Jesus: What do you do when they don't accept you? Jesus said: I tell them to - "God To Hell!"

When we successfully exchange provable facts for false beliefs, don't we achieved awareness? Facts without awareness are useless. Did Judas have any choice in becoming a traitor to Jesus? If God predestines, plans, orchestrates, executes, or, in essence, does it all, what does any Biblical "Satan role" consist of?

According to Job 2:6, Satan could do nothing without the permission of the "in control" Biblical God. Because God never admonished Satan for the deaths of Job's children and servants, it was the "in control" God's will and agenda that they were killed. Would you dare claim that God is not in control? Is Satan's role - of being God's adversary - all for this "in control" God's pleasure? By God's admission in Job: 2:3: Satan tempted, enticed, moved God - depending on which version of the Bible you have. The Lord's Prayer prays to God: "Lead us not into temptation"... So, Who proves to tempt you to do evil - God or Satan?

 

The "Traitorous" Judas Kiss

 

Are "Satan" or "Anti-Christ" just brands or labels that apologists put on any who - speak-out against, criticize or question - the Biblical God, Jesus Christ, or most of all, them.

I John 2:18 claims there are many "Anti-Christs" - so, Satan cannot be the only "Anti-Christ".

Blasphemy: Some believers use "blasphemy" to brand and label people as a censoring tool. Some believers are committed to (believe) things they don't know. Some cannot handle exposed facts so they tend to blackmail into censorship non-believers who question their faith / nonsense.

Mark 10:29-30 Jesus said: There is no one who has given up everything for Me who won't receive a hundred times more now in this present age.

This must be one of the feel-good, bribery passages that Jim Jones, Jimmy Swaggart, Reverend Ike, Jim Bakker, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and like ilk, constantly lay on believers for their money. And some still buy into it!

Next: One King James Version of Luke 17 is headed: The lesson of Sodom:

Hebrews 1:4-7 & Psalms 8:5-6 both prove that Jesus was "begotten / sired" by God.

G: Jesus can not be God if Jesus was made by God. It would be like you are your father.

God had the Angels worship "Him", Jesus. "Him" is not the same as "Me".

Colossians 1:15 Jesus was the first-born of creation. Catholic

G: Jesus was created?

Colossians 1:15 Jesus was the first-born of all creatures. KJV

The Biblical God was not born. Jesus was the first-born of all creatures. Jesus was a creature?  

Conclusion: By Bible C&V evidence: Jesus Christ is not The Biblical God.

G: The KJV Bible writers did not like the older Catholic version because if Jesus is God, Jesus cannot be created as Jesus is infinite - meaning - Jesus has always existed and He always will exist. Physics law states that energy can not be created nor destroyed. But, energy does mutate and change into other forms and God is claimed to be the same from "The Alpha to the Omega" - the beginning to the end. But - with the Biblical God - there is no beginning nor an end.

 

"The Alpha To The Omega"

 

Dr. William R. Jones, Jr. "The Bethany Hour": Faith is something, you have it or you don't have it. When faith is operative, then you believe what you cannot prove, you see the invisible, you trust the unknowable and you even embrace the illogical. Faith is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not seen.

Dr. Jones is a black televangelist who has a remarkable baritone voice and when he talks, he's one of the best in promoting faith and belief.

The Holman Bible Dictionary: Sacrifice is food and drink for the gods to satisfy what they need. In return, forgiveness is assumed.

Sacraments: The sacraments are a bizarre concept that a reward for eternal life is in the eating of Jesus Christ's Human flesh and the drinking of His Human blood. It is a wonder, that with the still primitive mental mechanism of man, there isn’t more cannibalism in the world in pursuit of blood sacrifice for salvation. Some primitive rituals practiced today may still influence this dangerous, cannibalistic behavior for the less than mentally / emotionally stable.

Do men put themselves in a God's role by pretending to drink Jesus' blood and eat his flesh to satisfy their mythical salvation needs? When objectively evaluated, it comes across as a pretty sick scenario.

 

The Sacraments - The Drinking Of Jesus Christ's Blood And The Eating Of His Body

 

Is religion an art and God but an art-form within the agenda of a con-artist? Fear, based on ignorance, is used to motivate obedience, conformity, exploitation and the sacrifice of innocent, ignorant people.

These works are designed to expose, by evidence, cruel social manipulations and human vulnerabilities. They are designed to expose facts. Is this agenda to draw believers? NO! You are the only thinker in your entire universe. You can think for yourself. Some fear that change will disrupt their order. Well, consider the law and order experienced for the past 2,000 years through the guidance and the models illustrated by this Biblical God.

 

Was Jesus Christ ready to fulfill His destiny?

 

Luke 10:16 Jesus equates: To reject or despise Him is to reject or despise God.

How many clergy have also said: To reject them was to reject God?

Luke 12:4 Jesus said: Be not afraid of them that kill the body...

Isn't this another controversial conflict? Isn't Jesus again saying: Do as I say, not as I do? In the garden, wasn't Jesus described to be really sweating what was coming?

Haven't mere humans faced death braver than in this description?

Conversely, if Jesus wanted what was about to happen, wasn't His act a form of suicide? So, should suicide be ok, if only in this case, within the believers' value systems?

If Jesus could opt out of His flesh body into His "transfigured body" at will, Jesus may not have experienced the pain His flesh body would have endured on the cross. See: "Jesus' transfigured body"

Bill Moyers, author of his great book Genesis: "God actually put His son on the cross to bleed in agony for other people. This is a God who would save us by doing that to a human being?"

Luke 14:33: Everyone had to give up everything they owned to follow Jesus.

 

 

So, John could not have had a home of his own to take Jesus mother into.

Luke 19:27 Jesus said (in a parable): Now as for those enemies of Mine who did not want Me to be their King, bring them here and slay them before Me. Catholic

 

Jesus Said: Bring Them Before Me And Slay Them?

 

Does Jesus depict He wants those murdered who won't allow Him to reign over them? So what if it was a parable? Wasn't it Jesus Who said these words that will not go away?

Revelation 2:18-23 The Son of God (Jesus Christ) condemns a harlot for not repenting. (The same character, Jesus Christ then said): I will also put her children to death.

I personally really don't care if this is a spiritual (fantasy) or literal passage. Don't these passages qualify Jesus as a violent and cruel and a murderous figure? Jesus was a dreamer who may have sold some dreams and obviously some nightmares. If it were not for ego and hope, most clergy and therapists would probably be out of their con-jobs?

"Is eternal death not a happier prospect than eternal existence if one can be tormented for eternity or have to be a slave to a tyrannical God for eternity?" Anonymous

 Luke 22:43 To strengthen Jesus, an angel from Heaven appeared to Him.

Now, somehow that's cheating. Most humans don't report getting that strengthening courtesy just hours before their death. Maybe it's the physician in Dr. Luke talking.

Luke 22:44 Jesus was in such agony and He prayed so fervently that His sweat became like drops of blood falling on the ground.

Luke 23:46 Jesus cried out: Father, into Thy hands I commend My spirit and breathed His last.

Luke 24: 41-43 (After Jesus resurrection) Jesus appeared to His disciples and asked them: Have you anything here to eat? They gave Him a piece of baked fish; He took it and ate it in front of them.

Matthew 26:37-39 Jesus began to feel sorrow and distress. He said: My soul is sorrowful even to death. My Father, if possible, LET THIS CUP PASS FROM ME. KJV  

At this point, it doesn't sound much like Jesus is very interested in dying for His fellow man, or for the fulfillment of anything. C. Dennis McKinsey

Matthew 27:46 Jesus said: My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me? KJV

 

God Forsakes Jesus?

 

Well, so much for Bible credibility and not for all the obvious reasons. As much as our hearts tug with pain due to Jesus' suffering death, it tends to shock and anger some that Matthew 27:46 is more evidence that it is staged. These words, verbalized by Jesus during His painful death-throws, were verbatim to Biblical words written a thousand years earlier, by King David. This is exhibited, as evidence, in The King James Version of: Psalm 22:1 My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken me?

A little m for me as it was David, not Jesus, depicted in Psalm 22:1. It is evident that many things have been "borrowed" after the fact from many pagan religions to make up the composite character of Jesus Christ and this is evidence of one of the greatest adoptions. Did Jesus, a God, during His death-struggle, quote these already written words, or were His words applied, after the fact, by Biblical Old Testament plagiarism?

If this is but plagiarism, how much more of the life of Jesus Christ was but a composite plagiarism of other religious heroes?

Psalm 31:5 Into Thine hands I commend my spirit. KJV

Jesus does not prove to be a descendent of King David - but a mere composite of David's poetry in Psalms. Did these Gospel writers make up Jesus and put words in His mouth in a guise to fulfill prophesy? T. S. Eliot claimed that bad poets borrow but good poets steal.

Dennis McKinsey e-mailed me that it was Jesus’ Divinity that took a hit.

Matthew 27:52-53 When Jesus died by crucifixion, tombs were opened and the bodies of many dead saints raised forth from their tombs, entered the city and appeared to many.

Is Matthew credible? No history bearing nation: Rome, Israel, Egypt etc. nor Mark, Luke, John, Paul (nor Ringo) bothered to make such a claim. If that had really happened, would it not be worth mentioning by at least one of the other Gospel or New Testament writers? Either Matthew took extraordinary or zealous literary license, or he had a sense of humor. Maybe, he got so excited he forgot to take his medication.

Job 7:9 He that goes down to the grave comes up no more.

Oh, what to believe?

Matthew 28:20 The resurrected Jesus said: And behold, I am with you always, until the end of the age.

The end of anything is not always. C. Dennis McKinsey

Idolatry: (Dictionary)

1. The worship of idols.

Do crosses and people on them qualify?

2. Excess devotion or reverence for some person or thing.

Does Jesus qualify?

John 7:34 Jesus said: You will seek Me and shall not find Me; and, where I am, you can not come.

Jesus often explained Himself and His values by speaking parables. He spoke of fictitious characters to represent Himself and describe His points. Did Jesus speak of a fictitious God in the same manner?

If God has planned and pre-destined our moment of death and all the "evil" things we do or that are done to us; then, what is the role or purpose for any Satan or devil? GWD

Hosea 1:2 God said to Hosea: Go take a harlot for a wife.

God actually tells His prophet, Hosea, to take a hooker, prostitute, whore, harlot for his wife? What kind of model or message is God sending your son - or your daughter?

John 13:23-25 One of His disciples, the one whom Jesus loved, was reclining at Jesus' side, leaned back against Jesus' chest.

John 19:26 (On the cross): When Jesus saw His mother and the disciple whom He loved, He said to His mother: Woman, behold your son. Then He said to the disciple (He loved): Behold your mother. The disciple took her into his home.

 

Mary Beholds Jesus Crucifixion

 

Are the answers to these questions the "Honest To God" facts?

Who said: No one can take My sheep out of My hand?

Who said: I came not to send peace but the sword, father against son, daughter against mother?

Who said: He that has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one?

Who will rule over the house of Jacob, forever?

Who said: Whoever loves his mother etc. more than Me is not worthy of Me?

Who said: I have come to set the Earth on fire. How I wish it were already blazing?

Who said: Children will rise up against their parents and put them to death?

Who said: Without hating his mother etc. - he cannot be My disciple?

Who said to his mother: Woman, how does your concern affect Me?

Who said: Whoever believes - serpents and drinking poison will not harm them?

Who said: Friend, who appointed Me as your judge?

Who said: Sell your belongings and give alms?

Who said: Who does not renounce all his possessions cannot be My disciple?

Who was at meal in His house?

Who said that He was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel?

Who said: Tax collectors and prostitutes are entering heaven before you?

Who said: Heaven will pass away?

Who said: This generation will not pass away until all these things take place?

Who said: Let this cup pass from Me three (3) different times?

Who said: My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?

Who died, tombs opened, dead bodies raised and appeared to many?

Where is "The Virgin Mary's" husband, Joseph? Dead? Divorced? What? Nobody cares?

The disciple, whom Jesus loved, could be Andrew's brother, John; as none of Jesus' brothers were His disciples. Jesus' brother James did assume control over the church in Jerusalem after Jesus was crucified. Later, James and his crowd were wiped out. Behold, your mother cannot be literal. Also, a must requirement for discipleship was found in:

Matthew 27:5 Judas (Iscariot, Jesus' betrayer) went off and hanged himself.

Is this another Biblical conflict or contradiction?

Acts 1:18 Judas, falling headlong, burst open and his guts gushed out.

Jesus died for our sins: In any value system, how can justice be served by executing an innocent man for the crimes or sins of others? If we support this doctrine and its God, we support that. Would anyone volunteer his or her child for Jeffery Dahmer's crimes? Don't we support a God who wants vengeance and doesn’t care who pays the price?

 

A Translation Argument:

One great argument between Biblical authorities and us poor, Biblically illiterate is:

Many of the clergy and the assumed elect manipulate the English Bible’s words by stating they don't say what the original texts say.

They refer back to the original Greek, Aramaic or Hebrew to establish authority over what is "God's word".

 

     

                           Greek                                     Aramaic                                        Hebrew

 

Some assumed elect (preachers) argue for authority, control and power by stating:

Preacher: You are reading the English versions and don’t know what the Bible really says or means. You are Biblically illiterate. I will tell you what the Bible means. Convert, conform, obey and send money!

If what is written in English is not what the Bible means, then they (those assumed elect) must be admitting that our English-written Bible is inaccurate and poorly written; thus flawed.

Personally, I only speak and read English. It is the Catholic "easy English" version that I am most able to grasp and mostly take issue with. I do struggle through the King James Version, too. Often, one version is more controversial than the other version is. If it’s not in English, I’m not guessing about it.

Many see only the good things and ignore or avoid the negative things the Bible holds.

Declaration: If I am wrong about most of these Biblical passages that I have selected to comment on, I am a fool. But, if I am accurate, I have learned much, and dared to share it.

I am not responsible for what the Bible says. I, like you, am not responsible for how others feel about what the Bible says. I, you, and all Americans, have our Constitutional right, by law, to question and express our opinions on any and all writings.

 

Our Future Leaders?

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This work is bound to have errors. If anyone finds an error, please contact us and if proven, I promise it will be corrected and I will definitely thank you so much.

 

 
What clergy should see "The God Murders" website?
 

See Gary DeVaney's YouTube videos: 

"The Shocking God" 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DmjuxqC1MI

"Jesus' Family Values"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqVG5_T8TP8

 
Gary DeVaney Screen Actor's Guild (SAG) Actor Since 1977.
 
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Jesus Never Existed:
 
 
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Gods Evil Deeds on yourtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnqrT-Ahk2c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g17YO9lSuqA

The Shocking God on  youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DmjuxqC1MI&list=PL27C0A0F9123C8160&index=

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBUbhLG118M&list=PL27C0A0F9123C8160&index=2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhlgFN3CnRk&list=PL27C0A0F9123C8160&index=3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPacE6OPLb4&index=4&list=PL27C0A0F9123C8160

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTGl_KIJxsM&index=5&list=PL27C0A0F9123C8160

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOusABJiugQ&list=PL27C0A0F9123C8160&index=6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdjOpVohNFY&index=7&list=PL27C0A0F9123C8160

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX6Lc3pZpAg&index=8&list=PL27C0A0F9123C8160

Jesse family values on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqVG5_T8TP8&list=UUuDrR0C84fGeSgBTRLT4TWQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdMVHNmqJoc&index=4&list=UUuDrR0C84fGeSgBTRLT4TWQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWGa1dTOZWU&index=3&list=UUuDrR0C84fGeSgBTRLT4TWQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrLyWTPSK0Y&list=UUuDrR0C84fGeSgBTRLT4TWQ&index=2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oBiVgICVyU&index=1&list=UUuDrR0C84fGeSgBTRLT4TWQ