The God Murders

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The "Good God" Challenge

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The "Good God" Challenge

By

Gary DeVaney

 


 

Believer: Every religion on this earth has good things which one must understand and pay due respect.

I, Gary DeVaney, for one, am curious how effectively you may address this challenge.

I have one specific question to you all concerning the supportive statement that religion has good things. This one question applies only to the Judeo-Christian religion and to its Biblical God.

The DeVaney Challenge:

"Outside of the myth of creation, what did the Biblical God do good for someone without hurting another?"

It is really just a simple, fact-requiring question. After realizing that you can not come up with any “God did good” list of substance - most of you will simply IGNORE the challenge. Some of you may defer answering - even to yourself - this specific on-topic question to those who you think are smarter than you are. Some of you may again get angry and condemn me for disrespectfully asking such a blasphemous question. On The God Murders page, I put the Biblical God on trial - so - this “blasphemy” is minor by comparison. And, did you check out the website page on “Did Jesus Christ Lie?”. More C&V blasphemy! You can “google” either or both.

This is an objective, logical question - so don’t pretend to be offended by it. This is your personal opportunity to show how great you determine your Biblical God to be - and what you specifically believe makes the Biblical God great. Don’t disappoint God in front of everybody. Let’s see how LONG and of what QUALITY your list will be.

LOL! It just occurred to me that this probably will become the last entry on this link - because nobody will dare respond concerning the question. Come on. Don’t let that happen. Meet the challenge! Outside of the myth of creation - God had to do something good without hurting another.

I’ll even start you off with a couple of “God did good without hurting another” examples:

Fact: God allowed some old, barren women to have children they very much wanted. God did good and it hurt nobody.

Really! Who made those old women barren in the first place?

Fact: God gave Solomon wisdom. God did good and it did not hurt anyone.

Really! What did Solomon do with God’s gift of wisdom? Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines. Solomon became the richest man on Earth. Both of these facts were condemned by God in The Old Testament. Solomon ended up SERVING OTHER GODS. Maybe Solomon’s wisdom was valid!

Submit only your on-topic list to gary@gdevaney.com

Your valid contribution may become part of "The God Murders" website.

Often, at the beginning of my speaking engagements, my challenge to the audience - and to all the audiences of the youtube World is: "Other than the myth of creation, can you list, by Bible Chapter and Verse, whereby the Old Testiment Biblical God did something "good" for someone without hurting some one else."

 

List?

 

If the Biblical God is so "good", let us all see how long and what quality your Bible C&V list is.

I have a few Bible C&Vs listed whereby God did something "good" for someone without hurting someone else - like allowing old, barren women to conceive. But, Who made these women, Sarah (Genesis 16:1 , 18:11, 21:10) Hannah (Judges 13:2-3) Elizabeth (Luke 1:5-57) barren in the first place? God did - to fulfill His personal agendas. God also gave Solomon wisdom (1 Kings 3:9-14). Solomon used this "God-given wisdom" to take 700 wives and 300 concubines for himself and then to worship other gods before he died (1 Kings 11:3-4).

Hummm, maybe God's gift of wisdom to Solomon actually took because he did end up worshipping other (maybe better) gods.

Can you accept my challenge? Let's see how many Bible C&V examples of "God being good" you can come up with. Let's see how "good" you can prove the Biblical God to be - by C&V documentation.

Question: If the Biblical God is so "good" - why are the believer's Bible C&V lists so short - and weak in moral quality?

Faith, as an answer, is nonsense - and faith is never an answer.

 

                                                                           Faith

 

Why Judeo-Christians Will NOT Debate The Bible Or Its God

By Gary DeVaney

 

Most Christian believers, (I hope not like yourself) and especially clergy, will not debate the Biblical God nor the Bible's controversial Chapters & Verses. Believers prove to neither have the courage to try nor the knowledge / tools to successfully debate the Bible's controversial C&Vs. If you should take issue with the Biblical God's murderous deeds or the Bible's controversial C&Vs, believers will totally disregard your C&V topic. Instead,they will "hatefully" attack you, the issue-taker - while claiming they are not. When they are caught, even in print, denial is automatic. Authoritatively, they will preach at you or threaten you "Eternal Torment". But, the believer will always fail to debate with you the Biblical God's murderous deeds or the controversial C&Vs that you have taken issue with. The believer is mind-set in that the believer can not think enough to question what he believes. (A question is the highest form of thought.) If you are a Christian and if you can imagine a believer in Islam's Allah - see if that perspective fits. 

 

Hum, No Picture of Him Either! Allah

 

Even an experienced, fundamentalist, Baptist minister will run away from a controversial Bible C&V debate. The fundamentalist minister solidly knows what the Bible documents. He knows that if he publicly defends those selected, controversial C&Vs, he will easily prove that he is a "Psychopath or a Sociopath". He knows that, if exposed, his "assumed authority" over others will not continue. If he publicly debates enough controversial Bible C&Vs, he also fears that he will prove to be categorically insane. Sermons are monologs and not exposed to questions.

Typically, a Christian believer - and clergy alike - will authoritatively threaten you, insult you, disparage you and do a hostile retreat from you - if you challenge them to debate your selected / controversial C&Vs of the Bible. Sad but true - it will almost always end up this way. The delusion is the believer thinks he has won the debate because he threatened and "blew-off" the issue taker. Does any believer have another rational reason why he or she never addressed a specific Bible C&V that was taken issue with? There are thinkers and there are believers. Do you lead your life - or - do you follow?  

 

Thinker

 

 

 

Comments? Questions? Corrections?

gary@gdevaney.com

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