is a sampling of comments from write-ins:
From: Renate H
Date: 3/3/2007 3:50:09 AM
Subject: The God Murders
I loved listening to you on Reggie the other day. You made me laugh….it was so entertaining…
a job you had, getting all those verses etc.. From the Bible…. I thought of doing this myself once, but then wondered
what for…many Christians are so set in their thinking "inside the box".. And they don’t want to come out. They
simply don't want to, it's too scary.
Reggie asked you a few times, "why are you doing this?"…. And "who cares?"….
Well, lets hope that it will reach a lot of people and that it will make them think just
what it is they do believe….
What annoys me is, that God / Jesus performed all these so called miracles, and today,
when you ask God to "show up" something at least… it's all quiet…There is no God, so don't hold your breath!
Your views on Prayer being Obedience, you are so right on that one too. I have just started
reading your web site and will be coming back for more as my time allows.
Your views on President Bush was also right up to my way of thinking. American's need to
Have you heard of Alex Jones from Prisonplanet.com???? …by the way? He is very
good in reporting the "truth".. He is a Christian, but I can forgive him for that, because he does report what the Govt Controlled
Media will not and he does do his homework!
However, if you do know him or listen to his radio show, I would be interested to know what you
think of him. It always amazes me how he, Alex Jones can be so clever in reporting the "real news out there" getting all the
facts together, and exposing the liars…that he doesn't do his homework on what the Bible really says. His God, is just
as much the murderer as is Bush, yet he reports only on Bush, the CIA, the FBI and so on, but NOT his God…..
Anyway, like I said, I will keep reading your web page… and thank you for doing "all
the hard work"… that I once thought of doing, just for my own pleasure.
From: Gary DeVaney
Date: 3/3/2007 11:19:26 AM
To: Renate H
Subject: Re: The God Murders
you so much for your kind commentary on the http://infidelguy.libsyn.Com/ radio show. I'm sharing your specific comments with our panels.
http://WWW.thegodmurders.Com/id105.HTML is one of my links that has some of Alex Jones awesome video
tapes. I view that he is the best at what he does. I also have friends who are excellent thinkers - yet they hold to the Biblical
God as being good. That also amazes me.
also recommend C. Dennis Mckinsey's Biblical Errancy website http://members.AOL.Com/ckbloomfld/ as he is the best at what he does. He also has 2 of the best books
could possibly fit your personal library.
stay in touch and participate with us as you investigate.
heard your talk on the infidel guy and went to your site. I just actually listened to the podcast yesterday as
I have only recently discovered the infidel guy and such.
people seem to define the bible as more than a book, even if they are atheist or of another religion, but the bible is just
a book. So, it was quite refreshing to hear you make your arguments from a literary point of view.
will be hanging around, I am hoping to establish myself as an artist in the free thinking community. I am not quite sure
how to go about that but something will come to mind.
From: Gary DeVaney
Date: 3/2/2007 12:14:52 PM
To: Carrie R
Subject: Re: I think what you are doing is great.
Carrie R. Thank you for your kind comments.
you hear the http://infidelguy.libsyn.Com/ radio show or did you happen across thegodmurders.com website?
We tend to assist courageous thinkers who stand up so I hope you hang with us for a while.
Your podcast with Infidel Guy
I just listened to your discussion on the infidel podcast. You were brilliant and far outshined the CD presentation on The God Murders.
you presented, was
in line with the comments I tried to give you after receiving The God Murders CD so many years ago. I hope to hear many future presentations because you and your host made
me feel like I was in the room with
you. Please expand yourself like this and you will have great followings.
From: Paul Newman
Subject: Your website
Thanks so much for your website, it should be essential reading for all bible classes,
we might end up with a few more "freed" enlightened ex-christians!! lol
Keep up the good work,
Subject: God Murders DVD
Good day! I just recently heard your interview on the Infidel Guy's show, and was greatly intrigued by the concept.
The whole matter of murder being right in the name of god has been one of the main reasons I lost faith in the christian church,
and finally I've learned that no matter how violent or docile an imaginary being might be, it's still imaginary. So I was
hoping you could instruct me on how to acquire your DVD / CD / manuscript package. Would it help if I sent a self-addressed
stamped envelope your way? Give me the info, and I shall comply, no worries.
I hope Reggie will have you back on at some point . . . perhaps getting Robert Price to consult on the case you're
building. Just an idea, anyway.
Keep up the good work, in contrast to "good works", donchaknow.
Allow me to add my voice to all of those on the panel thanking you for making
this podcast available to us. I enjoyed listening to all the participants, and especially you.
From: GB Singh
Subject: Re: request
Last night I heard your interview. Absolutely great. Save a copy. I am thinking of using it down the line in the future
Loved your performance on Reg's show. You really have done your homework on the shortcomings of the biblical god. Your
background in the media really helped and I definitely want to thank you for the tremendous compliments you gave to me, my
program, and the panel.
Please keep up your fine work and the best to you,
Coming from C. Dennis McKinsey, who is the best - that was awesome!
Date: 2/16/2007 6:31:19 AM
To: Gary DeVaney
Subject: Re: AN EYE TO SEE.
This is Mrs Simon, I am sorry that you have such a deep hatred for God.
Gary: Hi Mrs. Simon. This is Gary DeVaney. I am on a panel of critical thinkers who take issue with Bible C&Vs.
I respect your views so much that I shared with the panel your valued e-mail to me. You were specific in your views. I hope
you will also value mine with respect. My views of the Biblical God character - real or fictitious - is based on what the
Bible says C&V about Him.
My thegodmurders.Com website primarily focuses on your Bible's C&Vs as to what those C&Vs say about your Biblical
Mrs. Simon: Obviously you have gone through some pretty devastating things in your life or know someone who has.
Gary: No. By most, who have known me, I'm a pretty happy individual. I treat others with respect and as the masters
of their lives. My "22 Acres" link describes my views. Typically, Christians believers avoid C&V issues and focus an attack
on freethinkers to stop us from doing what we do.
When that happens, sometimes I do tend to "lock heels" as I do stand up to assumed authoritative abuse.
Mrs. Simon: And I suppose without God's comfort and strength, because of your rejection of Him, it would be hard to
understand why terrible things happen. I have been through some pretty trying situations myself.
Gary: Thanks for your concern but I love my full and progressive life. I view that some who suffer see others as they
Mrs. Simon: But, I can truly say, that I felt God's hand holding mine helping me through evry time. I guess you would
imagine a world where everything is perfect, everyone is perfect, every day is the same, blah, blah, blah, blah.....What a
boring world it would be, what a boring life it would be and besides it was our sin that put us into the mess.
Gary: Mrs. Simon, the Biblical God IS the most upset, miserable, angry, jealous and murderous character who is depicted,
C&V, in the entire Bible. Can you name just one other character that Bible C&V states to be more upset miserable,
jealous, angry or murderous than its God? Take a calm breath and try to answer this question.
Mrs. Simon: This time on earth, you see, is just temporary.
Gary: I agree. Once this time expires, we expire into non-existence. Other than religious feel-good or consequential
myth, there is no evidence to the contrary.
Mrs. Simon: If you have a relationship with God and Christ, you have something to look forward to, a hope.
Gary: I don't think your God would let you do anything in Heaven that He wouldn't let you do on Earth. I've had a blast
and never spent one night in jail. In fact, if you reflect on your own personal habits, feelings and thoughts, I'll bet you
could eliminate some things that you like to do now being allowed in what you perceive to be your God's Heaven.
Mrs. Simon: I have a great sorrow in my heart for those like you who do not have that hope.
Gary: I tend to time-date my hopes which turn them into goals and most of my meaningful hopes are happily fulfilled.
That formula is very satisfying - for me. You know, Mrs. Simon, if it weren't for "HOPE", 90% of therapists and 100% of clergy
would be out of business. But, as you know, my thegodmurders.com website, is not about me. I am not the topic. When Christian believers don't like the issues - they
tend to make those who take issue the topic.
Mrs. Simon: I suppose you think that after you die that's it, it's over, there's nothing more. You are so wrong, if
that is what you believe, and as the bible states; Romans 14:11 "For it is written, As I live saith the Lord, every knee shall
bow to me (including you), and every tongue shall confess to God." 14:12 "So then every one of us (including you) shall give
account of himself to God.
Gary: Outside of Biblical dogma and the myths of some other competitive religions, there is no evidence of any afterlife. The Bible says there is War in Heaven" and that "Heaven Shalt Pass Away".
What is a rational, realist to commit to?
Mrs. Simon: I pray that some day you will see God's true plan for your life and feel that peace that passes ALL understanding.
It's not too late. But your not promised tomorrow or even the next hour. Please don't go to your grave rejecting the only
one who can truly save you and your eternal soul. I ask, however, that as long as you are still a God hater, that you no longer email my husband or myself.
Gary: I don't hate. I especially can't hate something that does not exist. I take issue with what the Bible says about
its God. The way the Biblical God treated humanity, C&V, I couldn't feel good being around such a character. I view that
believer's prayers are an attempt to tell God how to do His business. If I did believe in a self-admitted angry, jealous and vengeful God, I don't think that I would attempt to
Mrs. Simon: Keep your false beliefs to yourself.
Gary: You obviously don't support freedom of speech. You, as most Christians and Muslims, usually attempt to stop me
from doing what I am doing. Rightfully, the US Senate and Congress are doing that very thing to President George W. Bush right
now - because he has been wrong in his leading of the United States of America. The American people have waken up to
this insane, murderous and tyrannical President. Someday, humanity will wake up and change their minds about the insane, murderous
and tyrannical Biblical God. My quest and the quest of most of our panel is to inform and emphasize the Bible C&Vs that will wake believers up.
Mrs. Simon: It will have no effect anyway, so you are just wasting your time and effort.
Gary: That's what the President-supporting Senators and Congressmen said before they were defeated by their peers, who accurately supported the voice of the majority of the American people. It
turned out not to be a waste of time. The quest to expose the Biblical God for what the Bible C&Vs say He is will not
be a waste of time either.
Mrs. Simon: And God doesn't like you messing with His children. We will remain in prayer for you that your eyes will
open to the truth.
Gary: You and I probably won't live to see humanity wake up. A second "Age Of Enlightenment" is over due. The Senate
and Congress is now experiencing awakening and change due to the awakened conscience of the American people. They no longer
believe the President's lies and deception and his tyrannical imperialistic agenda. If you are in mind-set support of President
George W. Bush - I am obviously angering you further. Thank the Constitution that I swore to defend against all enemies foreign
and domestic, for my freedom of speech. As a retired Army Officer I view the Bill Of Rights to be of extreme quality also.
I have no "beliefs" - false or otherwise. My views are based on the C&Vs listed in your Bible. I did not write the Bible
- did I? I am not responsible for what the Bible says - am I? I'm not responsible for how believers feel about what the Bible
says. Most believers do not know the C&Vs that this panel and I point out in their Bible. If they continue to worship
this God after knowing what the Biblical God is documented to have done, the panel and I have done our work. Christianity
and Islam are at war with the wills of everyone - even themselves. I don't serve that cause and my will has not been blackmailed into serving the Christian's
God or Islam's Allah. Both labels are the same God of Abraham. If you disapprove of or have any specific issues on my
website, please debate them with me. If you find an error, notify me and if validated, I promise to correct it.
Warm Regards, Mrs. Simon,
To: Gary DeVaney
I am not reading your emails any longer, I am just deleting them immediately. Can't shake my faith, no matter how hard
you try. So you are wasting your time sending them. I hear enough trash from other heathens in the world around me, don't
need it from you. To God be the Glory always AMEN!!
Goodbye Mrs. Simon.
Blye said: What perplexes me is clergy lie to themselves when they say they believe in God. They know its not true and they
say it over and over. And what perplexes me further is the clergy who truly believe there is a God and worship the insane
God of the Bible. They know what the Biblical God did. How could they worship such and insane character? How can they promote
other people to do the same? They can't have a sense of right and wrong. It's like promoting Hitler, Stalin or Pol Pot. Have
they no shame? Shame on them! Its all insanity.
believers actual responses
by Gary DeVaney
1. God is
not on trial here, you are.
defenses are often an idiot offense.
2. You can’t
try someone who cannot be punished.
God doesn’t exist?
3. This is
is it then?
you consider to be evidence is planted.
it won’t go away.
5. You can’t
expose this for the sake of National Security.
6. Oh! Think
of the children!!!
Should they also live the lie?
7. You can’t
get away with these misrepresentations.
who questions God will be tried for blasphemy and will go to Hell.
9. God is
good regardless of all these “trumped up” charges.
or fear-felt claim?
10. Even if there is guilt, nobody will have the courage to banish or dismiss
11. You had best be God-fearing.
what purpose would you have me fear anything?
12. God had His reasons to do what He did. Don’t you dare question God.
13. This is all circumstantial evidence and hear-say, at best.
14. No matter what God did, He’s our God and He deserves our support.
15. God has to kill or we would be overpopulated.
16. Jesus changed all of Gods old ways.
Jesus die for God’s sins against us humans?
17. Duh, this is all more than I wanted to know.
18. This conversation is over. All subordinates of mine, don’t listen to
any of this.
19. Ya don’t know nothin’. Ya gotta read Bambi and Godzilla to get
the true picture.
20. You are going to Hell! I’m a Christian. I can’t be around you.
21. Believers are masters at delays, denials and cover-ups concerning God’s
II Kings 19:35 God’s
angel murdered 185,000 Assyrians.
Check out the tactics of those
who believe in Presidents when discussing their crimes.
Their tact of denial,
suppression and threats are identical to those who defend God.
Some say that these believers’
defenses are weak but my computer will hold only so many.
A believer often qualifies
as a sociopath who blames everyone and everything but God for God’s heinous murdering. Murderers and Kings often blame
their victims for their actions.
Believer: You may know God
with your head, but, you don’t know God with your heart.
Antisthenes (Greek philosopher
444-366 BC) believed virtue could be taught.
If you feel the same now
about this God as you did before, that this God is good, then you prove Antisthenes to be in error. What is God teaching here?
If one searches, ponders and non-commits: "Duh, I don't know"; then, God wasn't a very good teacher.
Maybe, one is not that slow.
Maybe one just has no courage.
It is your conscious that tells
you if an act or deed is moral or not. What does your own conscious tell you about the Biblical God’s deeds as depicted
in The Old Testament? On one hand we have logic and reason and on the other we have things we cannot explain.
Human egos try to assume authority
over unexplainable things by gambling on beliefs. Then they try to present their beliefs as facts. Believers assume power
and authority over those who buy into and gamble on their disproved and often ridiculous fantasies. It is what a believer
doesn’t know that make him or her up to be who he or she is - a believer. Faith is always a great motivation for a gamble.
In passing, ask any believer if these are the characteristics of the God in their heart. In an attempt to be “politically
correct”, they would probably get caught denying any such God.
Henry Menchen: "Faith may be defined briefly as
an illogical belief in the occurance of the improbable. A man full of faith is simply one who has lost, or never had, the
capacity for clear and realistic thought. He is not a mere ass - he is actually ill.
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