by Gary DeVaney
the Biblical God created the World and said it was "good" - did God fib? What's "good" about this World? Good for whom?
This World consists of "inter-parasitical survival" - whereby one biological species must eat other biological species in
order to survive. Doesn't it? For that deadly process to exist in reality, much pain is experienced. This
is the documented agenda that God saw fit to create. Does one know "good from bad / right from wrong" when it comes
to the Biblical God? Wouldn't it take something "evil" to create such a painful agenda?
Would you let your God or your President off the hook from any serious questions or criticisms of His deeds, agendas or behavior
- especially when those deeds, agendas and behaviors concern the destruction of you, yours or others?
Technical note: Sometimes the King James and the Catholic versions are not the exact same in meaning, chapters
and verse. Sometimes they are also, by number, one verse off.
4:11-15 God banned Cain and put a mark on him. Cain said: Anyone may kill me at sight. God said: Not so.
If anyone kills Cain, Cain shall be avenged seven-fold.
Lamech, Noah's father, killed Cain. Noah and his family of 8 were the only human beings supposedly on the Arc, who
survived the flood. God's avenging Cain seven-fold is suspicious.
God put the mark of Cain on him to protect Cain? Isn’t God protecting a murderer here? God (alas) failed
to protect Cain. Lamech, according to Torah notes, killed Cain. Is this a God of blind justice? What do you think will
happen to Lamech and his family? Lamech is the father of Noah. Did God fib again - especially about revenging
Wasn’t Cain the first natural-born human being getting combined DNA from both a human father and mother
- unless Satan was Cain's father. Wasn’t Cain the first human being to make an offering to the Biblical God? Didn’t
God’s rejection of Cain's offering cause Cain to become a murderer? If measurements of love are hurt, sense of loss,
jealousy, an inability to accept rejection, mustn’t Cain have loved God very much?
Didn't the first religious offering cause the first murder? Didn't the murder occur because that offering was
rejected by God? The first murder grows out of conflict between two worshippers of the Biblical God. What did God want? If
everything is for God’s pleasure, did God get His pleasure? If not, did God prove not to be a perfect expert? What if
God was in total control and God did get His pleasure? If God's perfect agenda played out perfectly, wouldn't
God be pure evil?
Cain have good intentions by making the first offering to God? Isn’t Cain’s choice nicer by not offering
a freshly slaughtered animal? Is Cain ever known for his good intentions?
Don’t most people view “the mark of Cain” as a mark of evil? Didn’t God intend it to be a mark
Sin is never mentioned during
the Adam and Eve's "original sin" story. Sin was first mentioned in the Cain killed Abel story. The "original sin"
story must prove to be an after-thought.
4:17 And Cain knew (had sex with) his wife. They had Enoch. Cain built a city.
Cain’s city was built by and for whom? How? Who occupied it? Where did Cain’s wife come from? Wouldn’t
inquiring minds want to know? Maybe Pastor Arnold Murray's myth about a "6th day creation" (previously explained) has some
merit after all.
4:17-18 Shows Lamech, Noah’s father to be Cain’s bloodline. Torah, Catholic & KJV
this conflict with Genesis 5:6-25 & Luke 3:26-38? They both show Lamech to be in Adam’s other son’s, Seth’s
bloodline. Maybe there was more than one Lamech. Believers would insist on it.
Genesis 4:23 Lamech, (the father of Noah?) tells his two wives: I have killed a man (Cain) for wounding me, a boy (Tuval
Cain) for bruising me.
Emphasis: This is stated as such by Torah Bible Notes.
According to Genesis 4, didn’t Lamech, Noah’s father, come through Cain? Doesn’t Genesis 5 also have
Lamech coming through Adam and Eve’s third son, Seth? Oh, what to believe? Doesn’t the Bible depict it both ways
with some very similarly sounding forefathers? If the Lamech of Genesis 4 is not Noah’s father and if he did not kill
Cain, why mention him?
Lamech, Noah’s father, takes two wives and kills two people; one, the Torah Bible notes claim, was Cain,
his forefather. What did God tell Cain He would do if any man harmed him? While the rest of the world suffers death
by God drowning them, Noah, Lamech’s son and his family, was allowed to survive. There is so much to consider concerning
God’s character. Could being murderers possibly become the common characteristics of God’s personally and sacredly
chosen people? Shall we keep this in mind?
scripture, people live over 900 years for a few generations; then life becomes a mere 120 years or less. How can this be the
case? Has anyone else ever been exposed to this “forbidden fruit?” Knowing its effect of knowledge of good and
evil, wouldn’t you take a bite? If not, why bother with college to study or obey laws? The only forbidden fruit that
Adam alone was warned about was the fruit from the tree of “the knowledge of good and evil” in Genesis
2:16. Where, in scripture, does it say that they took fruit from “the tree of life”? It doesn't. Pastor Arnold
Murray has preached that “the tree of life” was actually Jesus Christ, who was also in the Garden of Eden. In
Genesis 3:22-23, Adam and Eve were banished from the Garden of Eden before they could partake of the
“tree of life” or eat of it and live forever. One wonders, if Murray is correct about what Adam did with
Satan, how would Adam have eaten from the “tree of life” with Jesus?
If you attempt
to debate the Bible's C&Vs, most believers will attempt to stop you. They won’t want you to debate it. They want
you to believe (and obey) the way they say things are. Some may preach, argue, get angry, and threaten to become an
enemy. Why? It is all written C&V in their own Bible. Most won’t look it up. I didn’t write the Bible. I'm
not responsible for what the Bible documents. I read it and did a book report.
No matter how
often this is emphasized, people still tend to blame the messenger for the Bible's content. Blame is the name of a no
Age In The Ages Of Old
5:1 God made man in His likeness.
this explained man’s immorality?
Genesis 5:5 Adam
died at 930 years of age. *Torah table.
Genesis 5:8 Seth
died at 912 years of age.
Genesis 5:11 Enosh
died at 905 years of age.
Genesis 5:14 Kenan
died at 910 years of age.
Genesis 5:17 Mahalalel
died at 895 years of age.
Genesis 5:20 Yered
died at 962 years of age.
Genesis 5:23 Enoch
died at 365 years of age.
Genesis 5:27 Methuselah
died at 969 years of age. (Oldest)
Genesis 5:31 Lamech
died at 777 years of age.
Trivia: Noah died
at 950 years of age.
at 600 years of age.
died at 205 years of age.
Abraham died at
175 years of age.
Isaac died at 180
years of age.
at 147 years of age.
Moses died at 120 years of age.
Genesis 5:24 Enoch walked with God and he was not; for God took him. KJV
BN: Enoch walked with God clearly implies he did not die like Elijah did not die in Kings 2:11.
Well, hocus-pocus! Do you really believe that Enoch and Elijah went to heaven without dying?
Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was taken so that he should not see death… Catholic
Conversion / Belief: To pour your words into another’s ears until those words start coming out of his or her
work seeks no converts or believers. It encourages each human being, when exposed to facts, to think for himself or herself.
Aren’t you alive? Why let others do your thinking for you? In scholarship, you are not graded on what you believe,
but on what you know.
The Sons of God
Genesis 6:1-2 When the daughters of men were born, The Sons of God
saw how beautiful they were and took for their wives as many as they chose. KJV
Was God in control of this?
So - The Biblical God had Sons!!! If the Bible is "God's word" and
"God's word" says the Sons of God - then Jesus Christ was NOT God's only son.
Genesis 6:3 God's spirit shall not always strive with man because
he is flesh, yet, man shall live 120 years. KJV
What? God will eventually desert man? In 1900 AD, the average life-span
of human beings in the United States of America was 47.3 years. Then, in 1995, it was 76.3 years. Jeannie Calment of France
died in 1997 at 121 years of age. With extreme exception, how can the Bible be considered accurate?
Genesis 6:4 The Titans (the fallen ones) were on Earth in those days
and also later. The sons of God had come on to the daughters of man and had fathered them. The Titans were the mightiest ones
who ever existed, men of renown. Torah
Who were God’s sons, the Titans? Did they turn against God?
Did that cause them to be the fallen ones? Does this explain where Cain’s wife, maybe a fallen one, came from?
Genesis 6:4 The Sons of God had intercourse with the daughters
of man who bore them sons.
What? Whew! Change the rating of this Catholic version!
Sons of God? Does God, have gender, sex organs? The Sons of God obviously
had sex organs to have intercourse with human women? If they were God's son's, did God have sex organs also?
Are these God’s sexually transmitted sons, or is God a hermaphrodite? Did God have sex with one female or many females
to produce these sons? Oh, what to believe?
This is too sensitive for one to discuss, you say? Why is that? God
said: Behold the man has become as one of us… God is talking to whom? His sons, the fallen sons? They took as
many human women as they could? Who said God created man because He was all alone in the universe? Was the Biblical
God a dysfunctional father concerning His Heavenly family? Couldn’t God get along with His Own family, that He sired?
Did God’s Sons rape unwilling women with God’s consent? Did His sons have a falling out with God? If God’s
Sons did improper acts with these women, what does that say about God’s upbringing skills concerning His Own offspring?
Is this all more than you want to know? Is your desire for knowledge
and facts stronger than your fear of some questions?
In a Satan story, Satan and 1/3rd of the Angels fell from Heaven,
then was God only 2/3rds popular in Heaven? How can that be? Is that the Almighty Model that believers worship today?
This alludes to pastor Arnold Murray's "1st Earth Age" as previously discussed.
God, clergy boasts, can hold up to any question; but, can clergy?
Believer: I don't want to ask certain questions or to know certain
facts and I don't want you to either. I know that I have the right to know. I just don't want to know - even if it matters.
I just want to stop you from doing what you are doing.
Presidents and tyrants get away with heinous, murderous acts due
to the same "head in the sand" attitude.
To believe: To let others do your thinking and decision-making for
you. Do you know any "Ostriches", in denial, with their heads in the sand?
Do you realize the more you hope, the less you are satisfied with
the deal God dealt you? The more you pray, the more you are telling God how to do His business.
Genesis 6:6 God regretted (Torah) repented (KJV)
that He had made man on Earth.
God was sorry? God repented to whom? God was fallible? Did not this
God admit, right here, that He made a mistake? How many righteous child-abusers have also admitted that they made a mistake
by their having children.
Genesis 6:7-10 God decides: Except for (8 people) Noah, his wife,
his sons, Shem, Ham and Japheth and their wives Who? Who? and Who? and some of each kind of animals (including serpents?)
God would murder every living thing.
What one person, who you know, would be impacted if sent to this
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